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suggested documentation and forum article amendment

PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:29 pm
by deadpoirotsketch
The LAME binaries are no longer available from http://mitiok.free.fr/

The current URL for mitiok's site is http://mitiok.maresweb.de/

An online LAME CLI switch reference is at http://lame.sourceforge.net/doc/html/switchs.html

I have not posted this to the chat>lame.exe commands? thread where I noticed the original link quoted as I think it more appropriate for Derek to make any necessary changes to forum quotes or v3 documentation as this would be more authoratative for wave corrector users of LAME.

I am not certain that the maresweb URL will be final. I obtained this information from http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lof ... 35118.html.

The new URL does exist, but it may be advisable to let it bed down for a while before making final changes to documentation.

I haven't noticed it quoted which version of Monkey's Audio ape encoder is used in Wave Corrector, and it might be useful to include this in the documentation if it isn't there in case any future developments in Monkey's Audio lead to compatibility problems.

dps

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:26 pm
by Derek
Thanks for the updated references. I'll try to get them changed.

Ref Monkeys Audio., the version in Wave corrector is 3.97. There is a problem with the current version of Wave Corrector that causes a fatal crash if you try to load a 3.99 ape file. This is fixed in the beta in that the program now tests for ape version and prevents 3.99 files from loading.

I had tried to update the ape support to 3.99 but it proved rather difficult because the interfaces have all changed and the documentation hasn't been updated to reflect the changes. So I have abandoned the update for the time being. You can always use the 3.99 command line encoder via Wave Corrector's 'External Encoder' option.

MA version

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:53 pm
by deadpoirotsketch
Thanks for the version information, Derek.

I like to include the version of Monkey's Audio that I've used as a tag in any files I archive. That way if any future changes break compatability and I want to dearchive an ape file I can simply reinstall that particular version of Monkey's audio.

Re: an earlier conversation. I haven't found any way to pass data into the lame encoder via the CLI to create an ID3 tag during the compression process, so I don't think you could easily implement that in WC. It is easy enough to use an ID3 tag editor afterward, or even File Properties under Windows XP to create the tag.

I don't know if Monkey's Audio or Ogg would support the inclusion of the #, ARTIST, TITLE, ALBUM or other fields that can already be used in naming the files Wave Corrector produces into an internal tag in the ogg or ape file as the file is being produced or named by wave corrector. Ideally if the encoders support it it would be nice to be able to pass this data into the encoder CLI in the same sort of way that the IN and OUT parameters are passed to the encoder when using lame to define the source filename and the target filename to be used. This would skip the step of having to tag the files outside Wave Corrector after creation. If the lame, ogg and Monkey's Audio encoders don't support tagging during encoding there is probably a good reason why , but if they do support it then maybe these fields could be picked up from the Track Properties dialogue and created as the necessary DOS variables in Wave Corrector so that they can be used in the command line arguments passed into the encoder by Wave Corrector. While I personally think this would be highly desirable it does depend on the encoder being able to support it. I guess I need to do some investigation and querying on the Internet to find out before I bother you more with this particular bee in my bonnet! (Smile)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:32 pm
by Derek
If you use Wave Corrector's built-in encoders (ogg and ape) then the tags are automatically created when you save your files. if you are using the command line versions of ogg and ape, I don't think you can add any tag information.

However, with LAME, you can include tag in formation; for example, you use --tt to include a title tag. Therefore, in the Wave Corrector command line options, you'd use --tt %T

See the Wave Corrector Help file under Processing Wave Files/Using an External Encoder

See also the file id3.html in the LAME download.

Re: tagging

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:17 pm
by deadpoirotsketch
Thank you. I will give this a try.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:51 pm
by deadpoirotsketch
Derek,
First my apologies for wasting your time.

I have now got the tagging going properly, and any problems were the result of my misunderstandings and not in any way down to wave corrector or the documentation.

I hope you won't mind if I humbly ask for the Year field to be inputable in the same way as artist and title i.e. either global or for individual tracks so it can also be transferred into tags.

I ask because my mp3 jukebox uses this tag, and sometimes it can be quite useful when searching.

I am now resolved to *thoroughly* read the documentation.

Regards.